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All Due Respect to The Maestro

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I don’t know John, and he doesn’t know me. Which is good… I don’t want him to.

Here is a simple fact: None of us are the same.

I’ll never have to worry about competing with John Williams. I know what you are thinking: “NO shit!”

No, I mean it. John Williams will never sound like I can. He’s not able. You might say, “Um, Deane, excuse me, but John Williams is arguably the single greatest composer living today. He can do anything.” To which I respond, “Yes he is… and no he cannot.”

John Williams can never be Deane Ogden, or James Newton Howard, or Alain Mayrand, or John Debney, or Brian Ralston, or Alexandre Desplat, or Sharon Farber, or Chris Young, or Adrian Ellis, or Hans Zimmer, or Brian Satterwhite, or Richard Bellis, or Tim Montijo, or Alan Silvestri. As long as he has written for the screen, as hard as he might try, as much as he may study, he’ll never get there. Our music flows from a place that John Williams could never understand or even come close to comprehending. He could not possibly get it and he never will.

Conversely, as hard as we try, as hard as we study, and as hard as we practice, we will never sound like John Williams. John Williams never has to worry you nor I. Why? Because none of us could ever fathom what John Williams had to go through to write his most recent note. We will never know what place that John Williams writes from. We don’t get him, and we never ever will.

We are all different people with different lives, different sets of experiences, born of different parents, facing radically different futures. Therefore, competition, at least in the form by which we usually refer to it, doesn’t exist.

People talk about competition all the time. I hear constantly from players how hard it is to compete with the convenience of samples (not the quality of them…. the convenience of them—I feel the letters from the AFM on their way to me already!). Of course, we all have experienced the “competition” within our own ranks—being put up against each other by our own representative agencies for projects, always with that same reassurance from them, “Hey don’t worry… this one’s got YOU written all over it!” Uh huh.

Professional golfers say often that there is no competition amongst their tribe, but rather only that which exists between each golfer and the golf course itself. To a pro golfer, the other golfer on the course is not the competitor, but the curve of a fairway or the placement of a hazard. I’ve always found that concept fascinating and I’ve often pondered how it might apply to our situation as music and film Creatives. There really is no one entity in the film music community that you need ever have to worry about competing with, save for one… your own music. Yes, the most fierce competition out there that you’ll face as a composer is the last score you wrote. Your true nemesis resides right there, in the pit of your own stomach—the drive to better yourself. To set a goal, achieve it, set a loftier goal, achieve that, and so on, and so forth. Creatives have it in their guts to up their own ante. As Creatives, we are our own fiercest competition, our own worst enemies.

Creatives are different than other people. It’s politically correct to say that we aren’t—that we are just like construction workers, attorneys, corporate buyers, or police officers—but when you get honest about it, we most certainly AREN’T like any of those people. We are a different animal. We don’t think, analyze, opine, or expend our energy the way non-creatives do. We also don’t rest, work, vacation, engage, or “unplug” the way that non-creatives do. We rarely ever stop creating, whether we are writing at our workstations or writing in our heads at the dinner table. We often get accused of not being “present” during conversations or engaged in our surroundings (sound familiar?). We daydream a lot. We also have a greater need for solitude and seclusion and often are told that we lean towards being “reclusive”. By all counts, we are simply different. And what drives us is different, also.

Creatives are driven in a way that no other human tribe is. We are driven to create, yet in that process of creating—when we are really down in it— composers in particular tend to lose track of something that is vital to long-term success: Self-Improvement. So many composers—even the A-listers who some view as “leading the pack” in terms of pushing the boundaries of the craft—rely on their same old bag of tricks, their tried-and-true methods of creating… the things that have always worked for them. The crutches. The old standards. The “reliables”.

It gets worse as you move up the ladder. I recently sat with an A-list composer friend of mine and we talked about the differences between the terraces of the film composing career. We talked about the contrasts of handling 1-2 million dollar studio budgets versus 30-90k indie budgets, managing a team of 25 versus an army of One, and working with our agencies as opposed to negotiating our own deals. But when we started talking creativity, I ask him what the major differences were that he saw between his A-list position and when he first started out as an indie film guy. Here’s what he said:

“Deane, when you have done this as long as I’ve been fortunate to, you develop a sound. And that sound is what you then become known for. Once you have your sound, in a strange way, it’s over for you creatively. That’s all they want. That sound. You don’t get to experiment, they don’t want you to try anything new. They just want the sound. Then it is up to you. You have to then figure out a way to manipulate that sound—the sound that is YOU—so that it evolves and changes, yet to them, it is still that sound. But to you, it becomes something else. Something different every time. And it’s always got to be better than the last time, because if it’s not, then what’s the point for you? If you aren’t doing better work each and every time you score a picture, you are cheating yourself and at that point it really is just a service job. It’s heartless, then. No life. I’m not saying that’s easy, Deane. Getting to the point of besting yourself each time out is a hard thing to do, and most composers haven’t figured out how to do it. But it is possible if you work at it. But that’s the rub—it takes a lot of patience and a lot of hard work.”

The Passion to Be You

Finding your own voice—or as my friend put it… “the sound”—can be daunting at best and impossible at worst. What IS your sound? Is it something you can just conjure up, or must it come to you organically, born out of “doing” film music for long periods of time? Who knows. It’s probably different for everybody. But certainly, the commonality exists that you must be conscious of it before you set out to be original. In doing so, however, be careful not to set out to be different from everyone else. If you do, you’ll be looking at others more than you should be. When you focus too much on outside factors, you begin to lose track of what you are trying to accomplish in your own craft.

Exerting effort to be better than the next person will get you nowhere. Well… that’s not entirely true… it will get you somewhere, but somewhere is a place that you won’t like very much. Better to concentrate instead on besting yourself. You’ll never be better than John Williams at what he does. Williams is the best Williams there is. You’ll never do Tom Newman better than Tom Newman does Tom Newman. I’m not talking about not having to “live up” to the temp, or having to create something with the same vibe as what the director has been infatuated with since the beginning of post. In fact, I believe that “temp love” is less about the music and more about the feeling of the scene. (There has never been a situation in my own career when I wasn’t able to talk the director off the steep cliff of “recreating the temp”. It’s easy to do if you can articulate how the music is not really the issue—the scene is.)

What am I suggesting? Am I saying that competition isn’t productive? Of course not. What I’m saying is that competing against yourself—allowing your own brand of greatness to slowly unfold—is better than buzzing harder to keep up with the swarm.

Allow your music to do the talking.

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Founder & Editor-in-Chief

SCOREcast founder and editor-in-chief, Deane Ogden, is an American composer, recording artist, and studio and live drummer for radio and records. As an advocate for professional creative arts education, Deane speaks globally at creative and cultural conferences and is passionate about the convergence of art and business.

  • http://www.michaelvwilson.com Michael Wilson

    Great article and great comments everyone.

    I work hard to nurture and market my own musical voice, but to play devil’s advocate, how does one cross the line from being paid to sound like someone else, to being hired for your own sound.

    Consider a director who wants a score similar to the temp, but can’t afford the composer who originally wrote most of the temp music. Of course, the answer is “add your own flavor to the project”, but I would argue that it often ends up as a collaboration of sorts between the two composers (though one without knowing it!). A ‘mashup of sounds’, if you will.

    It’s been my experience, the average working composer is not hired for their sound (like 30 years ago) but because of a relationship and the ability to produce whatever is asked of them. It seems to me that we are required to be everything-to-everyone. But in doing so, aren’t losing our individuality?

    Food for thought.
    Is our own voice now relegated to only be heard through personal projects?
    Should we wait patiently for directors/producers that take our musical opinions seriously?
    By simply producing the music, even if it’s al-la something else, does it already inherently have a stamp of ‘me’ on it?
    Is a good portion of what we do gently coaxing the director/producer toward what the score *should* be; because aren’t we supposed to be the expert?
    Should we simply be thankful to be earning a living doing what we love?

    Again, “to play devil’s advocate, how does one cross the line from being paid to sound like someone else, to being hired for your own sound?”

    (wow, there are a lot questions in there..)

    • Bellis

      But all important questions, Michael.

      There are some things that can be tried. I think sometimes we want to please so much that we don’t even venture a question which might be interpreted as argumentative. On the other hand, if the phraseology is wrong, such an attempt could actually be argumentative. Here’s an example of what might be tried:

      COMPOSER (to Director)

      “You know, your film doesn’t look like anyone else’s film. There is significant originality here! What if we could capture all the dramatic elements in the temp with a score as original as your film?”

      (con’t)

      “Can we just take a moment to talk about the temp score and what it is that’s working for you? Is it tempo; grit; heavy; dark; light, etc?”

      The idea, unless you ARE John Williams or Hans Zimmer, is not to have the score sound like you but, rather, sound original. Even when you ARE Hans Zimmer, the likelihood is that the film maker will not want it to sound like Hans Zimmer but rather like “that film you scored……..what was it?”

      • http://www.michaelvwilson.com Michael Wilson

        Great advice, thanks!

  • http://twitter.com/FilmCompos3r Greg Nicolett

    Though

  • http://deaneogden.com Deane Ogden

    Eric S. points out a brilliant caveat below: Discovering one’s voice should not be limited to the tools one has at their fingertips. It is too easy, especially in our industry’s current trend toward “toolbox mentality”, to do allow the latter be the definition of the former.Let’s take it one step further. I wonder if a baseline “discovery” can even be achieved with the added colorization of current software tools to begin with. To me, Symphobia/LASS/Vienna/Whatever do not a composer make, although a lot of students/up-and-comers believe that once they get their hands on a 1-2k library, they are “finally able to compose.”Instead, these libraries are “levelers”, at best. They calibrate the playing field in terms of SOUND only, not ability. All things being equal, any thoughts to whether or not the true definition of your “sound” can only be achieved via the conduit of pencil to paper vs. notes through Symphobia?Not trying to indict anyone’s method… just more grist for the mill.

    • http://www.adrianelliscomposer.com/AdriansBlog Adrian Ellis

      Great point. The barrier to entry is extremely low = the market is saturated. We have a tonne of people out there who can sound ‘great’. So, in a way, the answer is better looked at from a business perspective – how do you differentiate in a saturated market, ie: all things being the same, why pick composer a. over composer b.? Two possible answers are, use the same tool as everyone else but use it *differently*, or use something else entirely (or in combination). So, while you may not be able to force your ‘voice’, there is probably a lot of merit in considering what you might try to get there and experimenting.

      I think it takes some courage too, though – because there is a line of thinking that states that “good = sounds like what came before”. Doing things differently means taking a chance, knowing that you are actively cutting yourself out of a certain sector of the market. However, if you can find that tiny niche where you fit, and suddenly your competition for that kind of work is 1/100000 of what it was, that’s not a bad place to be.

      As an aside, it’s amazing to consider every once in while what those libraries actually are. Imagine you actually hired Eric Persing to record some taikos for you, with the best players, in that gorgeous hall, with the best mics and the hottest engineer on a million dollar board with Neve pres and and and. Now everyone just loads up Stormdrum … and there it is – it really sounds like a million bucks. When you really think about that one note when you play it… it’s kind of a WTF moment.

      • http://twitter.com/FilmCompos3r Greg Nicolett

        And yet when you record your own Taikos on some mediocre pre amps with your friend engineering, and layer them OVER your Stormdrums, it still sounds BETTER, partly because suddenly I have some ownership of that sound, but also partly because, frankly, music is completely subjective, and my tastes vary incredibly from Nick Phoenix’s.

        Can you imagine if every film had a Nick Phoenix score? We’d be hearing full Gothic choir for every scene in “Good Will Hunting.”

        • http://www.adrianelliscomposer.com/AdriansBlog Adrian Ellis

          Yea, great point – mix it up.

          We have a scourge of Gothic choir overload in every single film and game trailer from the indies to the majors … it`s like one composer was aware of Orff, but then each one that followed was a copy of a copy of a copy, so we end up with a sea of really crappy, melodramatic, volume advantaged Carmina Burana rips.

          Sorry, was I yelling?

    • http://www.adrianelliscomposer.com/AdriansBlog Adrian Ellis

      Great point. The barrier to entry is extremely low = the market is saturated. We have a tonne of people out there who can sound ‘great’. So, in a way, the answer is better looked at from a business perspective – how do you differentiate in a saturated market, ie: all things being the same, why pick composer a. over composer b.? Two possible answers are, use the same tool as everyone else but use it *differently*, or use something else entirely (or in combination). So, while you may not be able to force your ‘voice’, there is probably a lot of merit in considering what you might try to get there and experimenting.

      I think it takes some courage too, though – because there is a line of thinking that states that “good = sounds like what came before”. Doing things differently means taking a chance, knowing that you are actively cutting yourself out of a certain sector of the market. However, if you can find that tiny niche where you fit, and suddenly your competition for that kind of work is 1/100000 of what it was, that’s not a bad place to be.

      As an aside, it’s amazing to consider every once in while what those libraries actually are. Imagine you actually hired Eric Persing to record some taikos for you, with the best players, in that gorgeous hall, with the best mics and the hottest engineer on a million dollar board with Neve pres and and and. Now everyone just loads up Stormdrum … and there it is – it really sounds like a million bucks. When you really think about that one note when you play it… it’s kind of a WTF moment.

  • http://www.ericsantiestevan.com ericsantiestevan

    Dr. Seuss was once famously asked, “Why do you draw so strangely?” He replied, “It’s the only way I know how.” Or words to that effect. He’d clearly found his voice and run with it.

    One thing I’d like to add to everyone still up-and-coming is that one’s voice is not found by just accepting one’s limitations. I’ve met people who just wouldn’t try conducting because that wasn’t in their initial skill set (e.g. coming from a rock or jazz background) or others who really wanted to be a classical composer and not deal with software and samplers. While it is true that many a composer I like works within a defined range that plays to their strengths and avoids their weaknesses (Glass, Danna, Nyman), I’d like to think that they, and we, come to that place of artistic sweet spot(s) by trying out new areas and pushing ourselves. When I didn’t have the studio firepower to write huge realistic studio scores (or actually, was in between a so-so initial orchestral library and a truly good one), I wrote smaller scores and got great feedback from people about it…and started to think that maybe I shouldn’t bother with big symphonic music. That wasn’t me finding my voice, but rather starting to let an avenue of expression slip away by accepting temporary circumstances as permanent. A few big purchases and some labors later, and I’m up and running with big scores again. The same could go with other areas. Just because you’ve never had to write hip hop or hardstyle trance doesn’t mean you could try. It might not become your signature sound, but those kinds of range-stretching exercises often add interesting color to your own unique voice. :)

  • Bellis

    Another thought provoking topic Deane. Thanks.
    I’ve always thought that “finding” your voice was a misnomer. Rather, I believe it is “discovering” the voice within you when it finally matures and is ready to come out.
    Your voice is merely a stew of all the various musical influences, some almost subconscious, which have been a part of your life. That’s what makes it so individualistic as Deane demonstrates so beautifully.
    It is also why I have always encouraged my students to experience all kinds of music…certainly NOT just film music! If you listen only to film music you run the risk that your voice might turn out be the voice of an impressionist.
    Once your voice makes it presence known to you, it becomes easier to focus on what you want to say with it. A beautiful voice is good..a beautiful voice with something to say is great! That would be John Williams.

    • http://www.adrianelliscomposer.com/AdriansBlog Adrian Ellis

      I think we need to start referring to Richard as Bellis Sensei.

      • Bellis

        :-)

      • http://deaneogden.com Deane Ogden

        I prefer to call him “Yoda”. (Don’t tell him I call him that!) :o P

        • Bellis

          Embarrassed I am.

  • http://ryanleach.com Ryan Leach

    I used to be obsessively concerned about finding my “sound”, or my “voice”. I’m fascinated with Nadia Boulanger who’s roster of students (including Philip Glass, Quincy Jones, Aaron Copland) all have vastly different but highly personal sounds.

    When I saw Philip Glass do a Q&A after a screening I realized that he never “worked” to find his voice, he just wrote the way that was inherent to him. Without even realizing it I was already beginning to develop my own sound and simply by writing music it would continue to develop.

    I’ve found that the best way to find your sound is to keep on writing.

    • http://www.adrianelliscomposer.com/AdriansBlog Adrian Ellis

      Good point – it seems like something where it’s counterproductive to try, or even think about it too much.

    • http://www.mitchellwestmoreland.com Mitchell Westmoreland

      “I’ve found that the best way to find your sound is to keep on writing.” — spot on Ryan.

      I would add: Trying to sound like someone else is nothing but a big distraction.
      I believe the most direct path to creating your own sound is to pursue the things that strike you, the devices you’re curious about and master them. Get input from a WIDE array of sources too.
      It’s also important to maintain a healthy perspective when studying others. i.e. take from them what you can, and be sure to incorporate it into what is you.

      How do humans develop their personality? By being themselves, A LOT.
      How do composers develop their own sound? By writing as themselves, A LOT.

      • http://www.mitchellwestmoreland.com Mitchell Westmoreland

        Oh, and thanks for another brilliant article Deane. :-)

  • http://www.adrianelliscomposer.com/AdriansBlog Adrian Ellis

    Brilliant, just brilliant! Couldn’t agree more with all you said. I really hope people take this to heart.

    “hey just want the sound. Then it is up to you. You have to then figure out a way to manipulate that sound—the sound that is YOU—so that it evolves and changes, yet to them, it is still that sound. But to you, it becomes something else.”

    This is amazing, just exactly right.

    PS: What did I do to have my name included in that illustrious list? I must be offering bribes in my sleep again. :)

  • http://www.nuancemusic.com Brian Satterwhite

    Deane,
    Great article as always. When I was at school, trying to sound like a particular composer was all the rage (I’m sure it’s no different today). There was one guy there who was well known for being able to orchestrate exactly like JW. He knew all the subtle nuances of what makes Williams sounds like Williams. When one of my friends said something like, “Isn’t that amazing?” I simply replied, “There’s only one composer I want to know that well and that’s me.”

    Bravo for continuing to think outside the box.

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